It's a bonus when the shoe doesn't look like a ski on your foot!For reference I measure a size 11 Med with flat feet. With Orthotic inserts I need a Wide Width.This journey started in January with back/hip pain and a swollen knee. Shoes made all the difference. After several pair (through local shoe store) trying to find a pair that fit my new orthotics, I ended up with the blue gray 880 V13 pair showing under these. I hate the color! I bought them because I needed something, anything. Since I can no longer go bare foot, I need a 2nd pair for indoors. Thank you, Amazon!First thing I noticed, the different "V" versions. One person said "Color was the only difference between them." THAT IS NOT TRUE. There ARE SUBTLE DIFFERENCES in the sole. V12 is a tiny fraction narrower than V13. That makes the V12 toe box slightly smaller as well, so a thinner sock works.This shoe is considered "neutral" in support ***. ("Let the orthoditic do the work" per Dr. K.)The upper is a soft & breathable 'fabric' that adds to the light weight and summer comfort. It will be interesting to see how well it stands up to daily wear. I have been wearing them every day, all day, since July 28. There is just a touch of lavender in that brush stroke by the heel. For fun I may change to lavender laces!If you've read this far, I realize my review might create more confusion. Perhaps a bit "TMI". I don't know any other way to stress the importance of a good fitting shoe. Remember, our feet are the foundation that supports the "house" (body). As we get older our feet and the type of support may change. Had I known 30 yrs ago what I've learned this past year, I would never have bought many of the shoes I wore in the past. Apparently that extra space in front of your toes prevents toe and nail problems from developing 10-20 years later. * * * If you need a more supportive, structured shoe check out the New Balance 1540 or Hoka Bondi 7. Both are still light weight with comfortable footbeds as well.Added the second pic - same shoe, different color. It was ordered at the same time and the system keeps bringing this page up when I clicked the Review button for it.