I have never had a pair of court shoes before, but since I have begun playing pickle ball, I thought I should have a pair. I am a NB fan, so thought to try these first. Sometimes in NB I take a 9.5, but normally I am a size 9, so I ordered a size 9 and they fit perfectly with plenty of toe box room. I have a narrow foot and heel, so although the heel counter could feel snugger, with a heavier sock it is fine. I must admit that there was some ankle bone rubbing as these shoes are a higher profile, but with a heavier sock I didn't notice it all. Overall, I am tickled with these shoes, and the quality is excellent. The tongue is also nice and thin but does the trick nicely while staying in place.